Guns and ammo (and others questions) Users browsing this topic:0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 0 Guests Users: None The Phrozen Keep Forum Index -> Mod Forums, Unsupported Mods -> Unsupported Mods, Nezeramontias Author Message Miguex Warrior Show Stats Age:26 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 21 Local Time: 09:54 Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: Guns and ammo (and others ques... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi everyone. I'm a relatively new nez player, have a paladin lvl 340 and a few questions: 1) Is there any table/word/excel document or similar that explains which ammo needs each kind of gun? I've been unable to use a pulse rifle, and have no idea how to use cells and similars. 2) What is the maximun ammount of experience in a bag? I've found one of 10,000,000 exp. Also, the maximun skill points i've found in a book is 9. 3) I'm using the Griswold's scepter, and only cand defend mylsef thx to my crafted ring that adds lots of damage. Is there any better weapon? Which is the better set for a high level paladin? 4) Is there any table with the new rune words? 5) I'm doing gauntlet runs pretty fast, but there's no way that Belial or Leviathan drop their souls , and Kagero takes a lot of time. Can anyone send me a character with their souls? (I know this is asking for too much ). I cand pay with some items That's all... for now Edit: I have all dolls and all fruits, but i need almost all glyphs... i would apreciatte someone sending them also. Last edited by Miguex on Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:57 am; edited 1 time in total Miguex Warrior Show Stats Age:26 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 21 Local Time: 15:18 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Come on, really anyone knows which ammo does a pulse rifle need? Ulmo Angel Show Stats Age:30 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 703 Local Time: 02:21 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Code:Shotgun Shotgun Shells Machine Gun M203 Machine Gun Clip M79 Grenade Pack Gatling Gun Gatling Gun Ammo Rail Gun Railgun Bolts Laser Pistol Ray Gun Laconium Pistol Pulse Rifle Immobileizer Laconium Rifle Energy Pack M629C Magnum Ammo Handgun M92F Handgun Bullets 10 000 000 are the max exp for droppable bags. 9 skill points is the maximum. deranged128 Crusader Show Stats Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Armidale NSW Local Time: 11:22 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:22 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amazing how a 'relatively new nez player' already has a clvl 340 Paladin. I've been playing for months and my main Sorc is only at clvl 375. Admitedly I have a number of other characters that have all made it through to the end of Hell, but they each take a fair bit of time to do. I am also surprised that having got a character to that level, and being able to get the big exp bags and skill books that you were not able to ascertain the various guns/ammo combinations and that you still need glyphs. Last edited by deranged128 on Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:27 am; edited 1 time in total Miguex Warrior Show Stats Age:26 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 21 Local Time: 14:25 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings. Thx for the info Ulmo I've been able to get a clvl 340 because this is my only character (i've been playing for 3-4 months), i did not use a pulse rifle because i prefer the Missing Score, just tried to use the pulse rifle a pair of times by curiosity (i thought i did try the energy pack, perhaps i did not, thinking it was only for laser pistols ). I've done lots of Nightmare Kagero runs, but hell is still too hard (and takes hours), so i use to make hell gauntlet runs (it only takes 15-20 minutes), which gives lots of exp bags and skill points, but few glyphs (always the same four: shift, sound, stone and other one i just don't remember). I need a better weapon for Hell Kagero and something better against physical inmunes that Vengeance/Conviction (quite good but not enough). And the souls of Leviathan, Belial, Lucifer and Satan... I think i'll never get them , but i'll try. Just need to make my crafted ring even stronger to try a few times deranged128 Crusader Show Stats Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Armidale NSW Local Time: 00:27 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Physical Immunes should not be an issue for you with the gatling gun and pumped up Holy Shock. The other glyphs can be found at times in Hell cows. You'll need Holy Fire to get the most damage there for a Paladin. There is also a unique Belt that has lvl 13 Enchant charges which could be of benefit. If you are doing all the gauntlet runs then skill points should not be an issue. For Hell Kagero I'd recommend a Barb. Ultima wepaon with Saviour Set and Decay Scream to remove phys immunes. He can slash through the rest and iron skin will give him protection from corpse explosions. Another viable alternative is a Sorc. Unreal Warrior Show Stats Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23 Local Time: 19:39 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I have ~350lvl paladin with saviour set. I use zeal/venge and fanaticism. But my weapon sucks: uniq elegant blade with div skull... From what I could get enough lifestolen. I have used uniq ettin axe and uniq priceless, but not managed to find lifestolen souls. I have planty of jewel devices so that is not a prob. (And I'm afraid of the game crashing if "excess lines" when adding too many souljewels) It takes so long to kill imune psychicals with vengeance... Is there any good common method to kill em all in kagero? And 1 thing more: I think I have never crafted items, what does that mean? How do I craft a good ring or something like that? Now I use cross+souls. Last edited by Unreal on Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:17 pm; edited 1 time in total SillyGreenMonkey Crusader Show Stats Age:24 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 93 Location: Colorado Local Time: 15:22 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enough skulls on a white (normal) ring would give you adequate lifesteal. Crafted items are items gained by cubing a base item with a bunch of other items. Space fragments are required for crafting normal rings, the amount depends on the quality of the item being put on. Divine Skulls I think require five space fragments per three skulls. _________________ Normal is just a stereotype. deranged128 Crusader Show Stats Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Armidale NSW Local Time: 08:33 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For a Paladin the answer should be Blessed Hammer in conjunction with Concentration. Pure magic damage. My Hammerdin has only just finished normal difficulty so I haven't been able to test it yet. As for a weapon, I'd suggest switching to the cadaceus from the Griswold set. 3 sockets and plenty of available lines for adding soul/jewels. wolla Squire Show Stats Age:25 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Local Time: 05:56 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:56 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hi. How many lines can I max have? Miguex Warrior Show Stats Age:26 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 21 Local Time: 14:40 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This goes to deranged128: I did not even think in auras like Holy Shok or Holy Fire, you know, they were nice the first time i played diablo, but they sucked in higher levels, but i'll give a try. As you said, skills points are not a problem. A barbarian for Hell Kagero sounds good, but he may have the same problem i have with my paladin: against physical inmunes i use vengeance / conviction. Works fine. Until you meet those mana suckers and you are unable to use vengeance. I try to fight them from far with the unique gatling gun, but sometimes they hit me and physical inmunes are close by... I have to run and recover my mana. I think the sorceress would be even worse with all those suckers and the high resistances / inmunities of the monsters, would need a lot of "-xx% to fire/pois/cold/light resistance". What about an assassin? deranged128 Crusader Show Stats Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Armidale NSW Local Time: 00:30 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check my earlier comment for the Barbarian. His decay scream will remove physical immunity from the Phase Knights plus many other immunities from other monsters in Hell Kagero. It works well and he can make quick work of them. Assassin can have a problem with physical immunes. My assassin can use Blade Fury for just about everything else in Hell Kagero, but even with massive amounts fo venom available has trouble with the phys immunes. She can make it through though, Fade is wonderful and Death Sentry will remove the corspes before Nihlathak Ghosts can access them. Wraiths are the major problems for Sorcs as they are fire/lightning/cold immune. I have the Missing Score gatling gun on the switch, with a few Ohm runes for increased damage. That will get rid of them too. You just need to work out some solutions to the areas in which you have problems, and usually soemthing on the switch can take care of it. Miguex Warrior Show Stats Age:26 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 21 Local Time: 20:46 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Guns and ammo (and others ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mmm... If Decay Scream works so well... I was training an amazon to use in kagero with the unique railgun (500-1500 dmg ), but i like the idea of the barbarian. Which skill would you put on the left button? deranged128 Crusader Show Stats Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Armidale NSW Local Time: 07:59 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Barbarian I use omnislash on the left button, from the ultima weapon. My barb finished Hell using polearms and unique shadow plate armour 'Glory of Suffering'. I found that combination not up to the test of Hell Kagero so I crafted the Ultima 'Colossal Blade' and switched to the Saviour set for armour, including the shield. I've run a couple of amazons through there also. The 'Impact Splatter' rail gun is very, very slow. You need good mana leach and magic arrow to regain that mana and beat the physical immunes. To overcome the slow nature of the weapon, add at least 280% IAS to your crafted ring and even then, after reaching the breakpoint for the weapon, you will find it too slow. My zons used the 'Windforce' Hydrabow and 'Missing Score' gatling gun respectively. WF has phenomenal speed but is hindered by very low min damage. Gatling gun was better in average damage area. All good fun however.